Collecting criticisms of EA movement building

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/CdrKtaAX69iJuJD2r/before-there-was-effective-altruism-there-was-effective#Why_Was_Effective_Philanthropy_Eclipsed_

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xomFCNXwNBeXtLq53/bad-omens-in-current-community-building

Workshop with RD

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/2YASg3FojAemJwXZ9/community-builders-spend-too-much-time-community-building

  • soldier mindset of marketing, vs scout mindset of collective exploration
    • prioritises growth at the cost of other virtues (moral seriousness, intellectual exploration)
On point 2, while it’s important to meet other EAs, I’d say that the returns from doing so start diminishing significantly after the point where you know enough people to have second-degree connections  with most other EAs. Connecting with people outside the EA bubble is much more counterfactually valuable since it increases the contacts available to the movement as a whole, especially if they’re open to EA ideas or interested in collaboration. This also makes our community less insular. I do think motivation and value drift are serious concerns, though.

from https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Lms9WjQawfqERwjBS/the-career-and-the-community?commentId=qqmqHEwsg9NBQRtMJ#TohJP7coWSNHB9PmT